eQuest 3.65 build 7173 - Wire frame mode

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Holding ctrl and left-click/dragging (i.e. the way you?d ?orbit? the view) is how I?m used to peeking at the wireframe. Doesn?t seem like this has changed between 7163 and 7173.

If there?s a way to make it always wireframe (when not manipulating the 3D view angle), I?m not sure I remember experiencing that. Would be interesting to learn!

I have a related query however (sorry for layering onto your thread, Daric!):

? By default, every project has ?Base Wire Frame? setting for the 3DManipulationMethod setting. I sometimes remember that it?s advantageous for QC review of geometries to instead choose the 2nd option (this renders windows & doors, helping to reveal instances of incorrectly ?sandwiched? surfaces in more complicated multi-shell situations.

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? Observation: If you select something other than the default, that setting lives in the *.pd2 file:

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? The question: Is there a way to make ?Full Wire Frame (all components)? the *default* 3D manipulation rendering setting?

o It would seem to be the case as a selectable option within the eQ_Dev.ini file (located in the eQUEST data directory):

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o The eQUEST.INI file includes a setting for 3DRenderMethod, but switching that value to 1 (?multiple cells?) has apparent no effect on new projects:

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o I also tried pasting in the 3DMainipulationMethod from eQ_Dev.ini (and removing the semicolon), to no apparent effect:

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~Nick
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I knew about the rotate going wire fame. Not what I?m after. In 3D mode, if you hit ?W? is gives a wireframe view (see attached). ?S? goes ?solid?. Image is from 3.64, but I thought 3.65 7163 still had this, but could be wrong. 3.65 7173 apparently doesn?t?

No worries on the tag-on question Nick. All part of it.

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If in 3D view you click on the "black" outside the model drawing, then
hit "W" you get the 3D view in wire frame mode. Can be useful for
finding wayward surfaces. Hitting "S" returns you to solid view.

I am in 7173 and it is still working for me.

Also interesting -- hitting "J" puts a .jpeg of the 3d view in the model
directory.

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Ohhh ? that?s news to me - cool feature!

Confirming for you, since have both builds at-hand: These ?W? and ?S? hotkeys to toggle wireframe in the 3D Geometry view *DO* work in 3.65 build 7163. They do *NOT* work in 3.65 build 7173.

Both our queries remain active, I suppose?
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Do not ask me why but in 7173, if you first turn off the Color Legend
then W and S will work in 3D mode.

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Also?
If you minimize the Equest window, then open it back up?the W button works for wire view!
I wonder how many Equest quirks are out there, unknown, and lurking in the shadows?.

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Jeff/Brian, thanks very much for helping to clarify!

So I reckon Daric?s query is mostly answered at this stage (there are at least a couple quirky workarounds to making W and S function as in previous builds).

Hopefully this thread is clear enough documentation for the developers to log in their ?honey do? list, as well.

I?m still interested to find out if there?s a trick to switch up some of the default settings for 3d views in the .INI settings, though.

~Nick

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Nick,
I don?t know if there are other flags you can add to the .ini but the ones that are in eQuest.ini don?t offer any options for changing the default 3D view settings.

I did find that setting ShowSplash=0 speeds up startup slightly.

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