Wizard Data Edit Mode to Detail Data Edit Mode, Hourly Report

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Hello,
I am an engineering student working on an energy simulation project using eQUEST. I am wondering when switching from wizard data edit mode to detailed data edit mode, will all information entered be successfully transferred.
I am switching modes for the purpose of producing hourly reports.

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Good luck to you and congratulations!

It is a user-specific decision. I go to detailed mode very soon in the process, because I find it easier to manipulate elements at the root level. I enter an initial Wizard definition, read in my CAD base plan using the Detailed Design Wizard, and then go to detailed. Most people will say that's inefficient, but I think you can struggle a long time with the Wizard's limitations and then have to go to DD anyway.

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Yes, it will be transferred successfully. But it's a one way process. The minute you move to detailed mode and make changes there, you can't come back to wizard mode and expect those changes reflected in there. I would say, if you have limited experience & your project can be taken care of by wizard mode (atleast most of items), try accomplishing it there and then move to DD mode for necessary changes.

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Good general advice.

If you are unsure, do as much as you can in wizards before moving to detailed. With a few isolated exceptions, everything you do in wizards moves into detailed mode.

Those exceptions include naming of systems, shells, and HVAC zones in the wizards... so (being pretty familiar and also interested in getting to detailed mode quickly), I wouldn't typically invest much time/effort naming things in the wizards.

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I agree with that completely.

Once you finish configuring your DD wizard you want to make sure everything is right before moving on.

For example, let's say I finished DD wizard, then added everything else in detailed edit mode (site properties, etc..)
But I wanted to check something in DD wizard.

As soon as you go back to the DD wizard, most of the data you added in detailed edit will revert back to "unreferenced" or will be blank.

In other words it creates a TON of extra work.

It can be done however - for example I recently had to go back in DD wizard because for some reason detailed edit showed the wrong air-side systems assignments and I couldn't figure out why it would have changed.

I saved a copy of what I had before I moved forward - so all my detailed edit mode inputs wouldn't be lost and could at least be copied over later on from the old model.

After I fixed those on the DD Wizard zone grouping screen (sheet 14) I had to go back to detailed edit and re-check all my data inputs to add everything that was removed in the process.

I basically had two equests open at once and in comparing the two I could figure out what needed to be re-added. This time my air-side systems were correct so it worked out.

If you are planning to perform a baseline for LEED certification you need to make sure all the items in Detailed edit that are yellowish Green are filled in.

Detailed edit has 5 "modules" and all have unique system trees on the left-hand side of the screen.
Right click each item, click properties. You would then check for any yellowish-green blocks that are required before you run your LEED compliance analysis.

For example, this one showing zone-specific occupancies that was sent to me from another equest user to illustrate the concept. Hope this helps.

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