Dear all:
(First of all, be careful with my sentences which might be miswritten,
because I?m not english native and in this topics about earned money or
billabe rates, we need to clarify and not to get hooked).
I?m continuing this post because I have some questions in order to unravel
the issue about Modelling. And I?ll start giving my gratefulness and
greetings to whom have written before.
Here is my list of questions/uncertainty related to .doc document attached
by Nick:
- LEED are increasing his users/fans, and not only northamerica nor
europe but south america is very close too, so, rates have to be universal
or local? (it seem to me that this kind of filter dosen?t exist on GBCI in
projects register matters).
- we need to clarify skill levels on modelling. New? INtermediate?
Advanced? Expert?
- we need to clarify skill level on LEED modelling...
- Misunderstood: if I pick up a project like "building energy
evaluation" (and I alreday made my charge), and suddenly the mandator wants
to get a LEED medal: the model is entirely drawn on software, I made my
assumptions, and I?ve almost sent my results in an oficially report: the
question is, how can I make another offer with Pasha?s cost logical? Are
going to be the same hours (let?s say same example of 72,000sqft) to make
LEED model?
- What software I used to make my models? which one is free or which
another is paid? is this going to make any difference with final price?
- Do you have any way to compare "LEED" certification building model
hour price, with some "energy evaluation" building model hour price? to
make my own comparisons?
- *Pasha?s* professional LEED hour rate it?s 60% over professional
typical hour for whatever we are modeling without pursuing any
certification.
- some countries have very poor thermal standards, and we always are
looking outside to make the difference to get/offer something better (in
order to sustainability and eficiency) than 'we have'.
- competition: small economies where few building are made per year
(always comparing with USA or CA or Europe), how can I get prices agreement
with my competition?
- is it convenient to work on a project in an advanced design stage that
suddenly wants to pursue LEED certification where we didn?t be before (I
mean, have been part of the design team)?
- can we do something similar to PassivHaus or BREEAM certification?
I think that?s all.
Thanks in advance and I?ll be waiting for any comments.
best greetings.
*Cristian Jara Toro*
Dear all,
I?m forwarding this email because I haven?t receive any comments yet
(Pasha?s exception).
Any comment would be appreciated.
best.
*Cristian Jara Toro*
Dear all:
(First of all, be careful with my sentences which might be miswritten,
because I?m not english native and in this topics about earned money or
billabe rates, we need to clarify and not to get hooked).
I?m continuing this post because I have some questions in order to unravel
the issue about Modelling. And I?ll start giving my gratefulness and
greetings to whom have written before.
Here is my list of questions/uncertainty related to .doc document attached
by Nick:
- LEED are increasing his users/fans, and not only northamerica nor
europe but south america is very close too, so, rates have to be universal
or local? (it seem to me that this kind of filter dosen?t exist on GBCI in
projects register matters).
- we need to clarify skill levels on modelling. New? INtermediate?
Advanced? Expert?
- we need to clarify skill level on LEED modelling...
- Misunderstood: if I pick up a project like "building energy
evaluation" (and I alreday made my charge), and suddenly the mandator wants
to get a LEED medal: the model is entirely drawn on software, I made my
assumptions, and I?ve almost sent my results in an oficially report: the
question is, how can I make another offer with Pasha?s cost logical? Are
going to be the same hours (let?s say same example of 72,000sqft) to make
LEED model?
- What software I used to make my models? which one is free or which
another is paid? is this going to make any difference with final price?
- Do you have any way to compare "LEED" certification building model
hour price, with some "energy evaluation" building model hour price? to
make my own comparisons?
- *Pasha?s* professional LEED hour rate it?s 60% over professional
typical hour for whatever we are modeling without pursuing any
certification.
- some countries have very poor thermal standards, and we always are
looking outside to make the difference to get/offer something better (in
order to sustainability and eficiency) than 'we have'.
- competition: small economies where few building are made per year
(always comparing with USA or CA or Europe), how can I get prices agreement
with my competition?
- is it convenient to work on a project in an advanced design stage that
suddenly wants to pursue LEED certification where we didn?t be before (I
mean, have been part of the design team)?
- can we do something similar to PassivHaus or BREEAM certification?
I think that?s all.
Thanks in advance and I?ll be waiting for any comments.
best greetings.
*Cristian Jara Toro*
Hi, I?ve rewritten red words below (in blue) because they were sound wrong
to me when I read them again.
And, this comments are referenced to a very long .doc document attached by
Nick months ago, so, maybe you should read it before...
- LEED are increasing his users/fans, and not only northamerica nor
europe but south america is very close too, so, rates have to be universal
or local? (it seem to me that this kind of filter dosen?t exist on GBCI in
projects register matters).
- LEED are increasing his users/fans and south america is not an
exception. so, rates (It referenced to utility rates, billable rates..,
what we, the modelers, 'have' to be paid for modelling works) have to be
universal or local (Pasha mentioned a $0.20/ft2 based on his experience (I
suppose he is an expert)... in other words, Do I have to charge for same as
Pasha charge (suppose same experience on modelling) or do we need to adjust
values considering different countries? (it seem to me that this kind of
filter dosen?t exist on GBCI in projects register matters).
Thanks Carolyn for your comments, and hope this clarify you!
regards,
*Cristian Jara Toro*
Cristian,
I think that each model is vastly different and must be priced based upon
the requirements of the project. For instance if there are complex systems
that can either not be modeled in eQuest or would involve very intensive
work around's that basically compromise the premise of using eQuest and
more capable software such as energy plus, TRNSYS or ESP-r would be
required and the modeler would have to do more work to complete the job
than they should charge more. (indoor swimming pools, variable refrigerant
flow heat pumps, green roofs and phase change materials come to mind) The
challenge with charging the same for a non-compliance project such as an
energy audit model as a compliance project such as a LEED certification is
that there is less work for the modeler and more reward for the client for
a LEED project, so more value. You might want to start out with
Pasha's recommendation and then provide a "discount" if the model is of
simple basic systems and the client is not pursuing platinum certification.
Also keep in mind that commonly modeling is bundled with engineering and
design services offered by large firms with multi member teams so the value
for a "model only" from a free lance individual might be much less.
Basically your service is worth what you say it is and so long as your
client is happy and your business is profitable you should be fine.
*Jeremiah D. Crossett*
Dear all,
I?m forwarding this email because I haven?t receive any comments yet
(Pasha?s exception).
Any comment would be appreciated.
best.
*Cristian Jara Toro*
Dear all:
(First of all, be careful with my sentences which might be miswritten,
because I?m not english native and in this topics about earned money or
billabe rates, we need to clarify and not to get hooked).
I?m continuing this post because I have some questions in order to unravel
the issue about Modelling. And I?ll start giving my gratefulness and
greetings to whom have written before.
Here is my list of questions/uncertainty related to .doc document attached
by Nick:
- LEED are increasing his users/fans, and not only northamerica nor
europe but south america is very close too, so, rates have to be universal
or local? (it seem to me that this kind of filter dosen?t exist on GBCI in
projects register matters).
- we need to clarify skill levels on modelling. New? INtermediate?
Advanced? Expert?
- we need to clarify skill level on LEED modelling...
- Misunderstood: if I pick up a project like "building energy
evaluation" (and I alreday made my charge), and suddenly the mandator wants
to get a LEED medal: the model is entirely drawn on software, I made my
assumptions, and I?ve almost sent my results in an oficially report: the
question is, how can I make another offer with Pasha?s cost logical? Are
going to be the same hours (let?s say same example of 72,000sqft) to make
LEED model?
- What software I used to make my models? which one is free or which
another is paid? is this going to make any difference with final price?
- Do you have any way to compare "LEED" certification building model
hour price, with some "energy evaluation" building model hour price? to
make my own comparisons?
- *Pasha?s* professional LEED hour rate it?s 60% over professional
typical hour for whatever we are modeling without pursuing any
certification.
- some countries have very poor thermal standards, and we always are
looking outside to make the difference to get/offer something better (in
order to sustainability and eficiency) than 'we have'.
- competition: small economies where few building are made per year
(always comparing with USA or CA or Europe), how can I get prices agreement
with my competition?
- is it convenient to work on a project in an advanced design stage that
suddenly wants to pursue LEED certification where we didn?t be before (I
mean, have been part of the design team)?
- can we do something similar to PassivHaus or BREEAM certification?
I think that?s all.
Thanks in advance and I?ll be waiting for any comments.
best greetings.
*Cristian Jara Toro*
Hi, I?ve rewritten red words below (in blue) because they were sound wrong
to me when I read them again.
And, this comments are referenced to a very long .doc document attached by
Nick months ago, so, maybe you should read it before...
- LEED are increasing his users/fans, and not only northamerica nor
europe but south america is very close too, so, rates have to be universal
or local? (it seem to me that this kind of filter dosen?t exist on GBCI in
projects register matters).
- LEED are increasing his users/fans and south america is not an
exception. so, rates (It referenced to utility rates, billable rates..,
what we, the modelers, 'have' to be paid for modelling works) have to be
universal or local (Pasha mentioned a $0.20/ft2 based on his experience (I
suppose he is an expert)... in other words, Do I have to charge for same as
Pasha charge (suppose same experience on modelling) or do we need to adjust
values considering different countries? (it seem to me that this kind of
filter dosen?t exist on GBCI in projects register matters).
Thanks Carolyn for your comments, and hope this clarify you!
regards,
*Cristian Jara Toro*