eQuest training

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Dear community,

i?m interested in
http://energy-models.com/training/equest-leed-case-study training, but i?m
not sure if it worth.

I do not have experience on equest modelling but I do so on IES-VE
modelling, so, if
I have that experience, it would be necessary to do a training, or perhaps
It would worth to take my own risk?

any comments?

best.
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Cristian Jara Toro*

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I did the LEED and eQuest classes and found them to be insightful.

*Jeremiah D. Crossett*

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Jeremiah:

But, would you recommend them?
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Cristian Jara Toro*

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Yes most definitely- Before the class I had self taught eQuest, and taken
some LEED classes that where not directed at modeling.

My experience with energy-models.com is as follows-

1. The LEED class was very useful, it really pin pointed what the very
long ASHRAE 90.1 standard and users guide says about requirements for
modeling. I highly advise this $30 class.
2. The LEED fan power class (this one is more of a recorded webnar)-
this unwinds the complexity involved with fan power classes- I highly
advise this free class.
3. eQuest- I was unsure if I needed this class, as a self taught eQuest
and other software modeler- but there is just not many classes on modeling
out there and I went ahead and took the class. My experience was great- as
my self taught learning had left gaps in the way I understood how to use
eQuest and how to create models in general. The class had very intuitive
questions and answers at the end of each session.

Summery: Bob the teacher does a very good job of keeping it interesting- he
is a refrigerant engineer by training and worked for TRANE teaching TRACE
700 for some time- he is the kind of guy that will help you with questions
and knows the answers.

The LEED classes are basically the best resources I have found for LEED
modeling guidance, and come at very fair prices.

I would recommend the eQuest class for anyone who is either just getting
into modeling or would like to learn more about eQuest. Further I advise
anyone who is new to energy modeling to start with eQuest because of its
clickable documentation- pairing that with the energy-models.com class the
learning curve to get started as an energy modeler is not too steep... On
a side note I do not do many models with eQuest lately- and have been
modeling with Design Builder/Energy Plus- but honestly I am very glad I
started with eQuest as I think I would have had a tough time getting
started otherwise.

Best regards and happy modeling-

*Jeremiah D. Crossett*

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I do am self taught in equest but I had years of
DOE2.1e experience. The only course I would find
helpful is the very beginning of the model -
reading the CAD floor plans into equest.

I have never been able to bring in successive
floors that have a different floor plate -
changing size - smaller or larger (floor
overhangs). The situation I have absolutely no
idea about is a building with a multi-storey,
central atrium with "bridges" between the two
sides of the atrium - corridors between each side.

I have never been able to find a course that
specializes in weird geometry situations.

I just give up and go back to DOE2.1e where I can
define the model without all that annoying 3-D
x,y,z to have to contend with. It makes nice
pictures in the end but doesn't to a whole lot
for productivity - at least in my case.

>> Christopher Jones, P.Eng.

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well chris, this is a thing that we all were felt. but i think there are
others applications to do or make weird shapes better. i do my models with
IES-VE, and revit and sketchup plugins work quite good for those annoyances
shapes, with bridges, corridors, 2storey halls, etc. but i'm sure of,
perhaps, in new equest releases this issue would be complemmented with
similar plugins; it should be!

regards chris!

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I don't mind the shapes. It is just that I don't
know how to get them from the electronic CAD drawings into equest successfully.

Perhaps the easiest thing would be to have the
atrium be part of each floor - with "virtual"
floors where there is no bridge. Then remove
those "virtual" floors and revised the atrium
polygon. The example in this case used the
atrium as the return air plenum with exhaust air
heat reclaim in the winter and operable dampers
top and bottom in the spring, summer, fall for free cooling when called for.

>> Christopher Jones, P.Eng.

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In general, for floors with different footprints, I use different shells in the DE wizard. This allows you to specify the upper shell as being above an existing conditioned shell. It will even allow "open to below" spaces for the top of atriums.

Edward M. Allen, P.E. CEM

----- Reply message -----
From: "Chris Jones" To: "Cristian Salvador Jara Toro" Cc: "&lt, equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org&gt," Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest training
Date: Sat, Aug 4, 2012 11:30 am

I don't mind the shapes. It is just that I don't know how to get them from the electronic CAD drawings into equest successfully.

Perhaps the easiest thing would be to have the atrium be part of each floor - with "virtual" floors where there is no bridge. Then remove those "virtual" floors and revised the atrium polygon. The example in this case used the atrium as the return air plenum with exhaust air heat reclaim in the winter and operable dampers top and bottom in the spring, summer, fall for free cooling when called for.

well chris, this is a thing that we all were felt. but i think there are others applications to do or make weird shapes better. i do my models with IES-VE, and revit and sketchup plugins work quite good for those annoyances shapes, with bridges, corridors, 2storey halls, etc. but i'm sure of, perhaps, in new equest releases this issue would be complemmented with similar plugins; it should be!

regards chris!
I do am self taught in equest but I had years of DOE2.1e experience. The only course I would find helpful is the very beginning of the model - reading the CAD floor plans into equest.

I have never been able to bring in successive floors that have a different floor plate - changing size - smaller or larger (floor overhangs). The situation I have absolutely no idea about is a building with a multi-storey, central atrium with "bridges" between the two sides of the atrium - corridors between each side.

I have never been able to find a course that specializes in weird geometry situations.

I just give up and go back to DOE2.1e where I can define the model without all that annoying 3-D x,y,z to have to contend with. It makes nice pictures in the end but doesn't to a whole lot for productivity - at least in my case.

Dear community,

i?m interested in
http://energy-models.com/training/equest-leed-case-study training, but i?m not sure if it worth.

I do not have experience on equest modelling but I do so on IES-VE modelling, so, if
I have that experience, it would be necessary to do a training, or perhaps It would worth to take my own risk?

any comments?

best.

Cristian Jara Toro

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