I am trying to calculate/estimate the electricity consumption by a chiller based on hourly outputs.

First, I plugged the cooling coil load on loop and corrected EIR in the the equitation

Elec= CAP hour* EIR*EIR(t1,t2)*EIR(PLR,dT)/3413 Btu/kW

but the calculated annual electricity consumption was not even close to the numbers reported under Space Cooling Enduse.

Then, I used PLR and operating chiller capacity at current condition to calculate CAP hour (instead of using the cooling coil load on loop), but calculated numbers did not make any sense.

Has anyone done similar calculations? I am sure I am missing something very simple here, but what?

Any suggestions are very appreciated

Ana

I am also confusing this problem, and I strongly recommend you to read the

DOE-2 engineering manual, verison 2.1A, and DOE-2.2 volume 4, which can be

downloaded from eQuest web site.

On page V.35 - V.38, engineering manual, it introduces the electric

calculation of chiller, and on page 265, volume4, it introduces the chiller

variable list number, you can export the hourly data in eQuest and

calculated by hand. I am lost at this step. As i know at this place, there

is something you need to notice, the unit of assign loading (1) shall be

BTU, and electric demand (12) may be kW, then I still can't get the right

number, if you get it, please let me know how.

Ana/Grammy:

Chiller modeling is a topic that took me many attempts (projects) to

fully get my arms around, so don't get discouraged if it boggles the

mind.

To start, remember that the reported "space cooling" end use consumption

values may include energy from components other than your chiller (heat

pumps, DX cooling...), so make sure that's not clouding your

perspective.

With that out of the way, you're right to first check and ensure the

loads on the loop are appropriate to what you're trying to model. I

think you should review what CAPhour and PLR really represent...

Multiplying them should result in your hourly load, in Btuh, but if

you're multiplying your "operating chiller capacity at current

condition" (Hourly Load) by your PLR then I suspect the result would be

equal to "PLR^2/CAPhour." I'm doubtful that's the value you were

looking for... Let me suggest two paths to account for what you're

trying to do:

If you are working with the library performance curves, recognize you

have a limited number of critical inputs to review/edit regarding the

behavior of the chiller itself: Capacity (a part of CAPhour) and EIR at

the design/rated conditions, the design conditions themselves, and the

associated loop temperatures. If any input on the chiller screens is

something you're unsure of, right-click it and read/re-read the

associated help entry.

If you want to delve into custom performance curves, welcome to the

rabbit hole! This required significant personal learning and time for

me to get my arms around, I would suggest expecting the same. I'd

suggest first getting comfortable specifying chillers using the library

curves, per above before pursuing this skillset.

Still here? Okay, the following 3-step program is what I wish I could

go back in time and tell myself months ago:

1. Open the DOE2 help files to Volume 2: Dictionary > HVAC

Components > Chiller. Read everything in the tree in order up to the

"Attachment to Chilled Water Loop" entry, and stop. Pay special

attention to the "Chiller Energy Consumption" article and the

sub-entries describing each performance curve in that equation. When

you're familiar enough to recount all the variables involved in that

equation you brought up below by memory, proceed to...

2. Download the EDR design guidelines to HVAC simulation

, and read the chapter

on chillers, pages 23-44 (of 65).

a. Re-read until you feel comfortable understanding what

information you need from your manufacturer rep/vendor. A good rep is

always trying to be helpful, and may unintentionally provide the wrong

information and convince you both you're on solid footing. You must

know exactly what data you do and don't need before beginning the

discussion of asking for that information. Whether your vendor/rep can

deliver exactly what you want is something of a toss-up, but it's a

pretty slim chance if you don't know what that is yourself.

b. The equations presented showing the math behind the coefficients

may seem insurmountable, but for context recognize the author(s) of this

document advocating to not figure out the coefficients directly...

rather to let eQuest/DOE2 do that legwork for you (the "data method").

To an extent this is something of a reference regarding what's going on

"under the hood."

3. Read the lengthy discussion I started this week (with

illustrations) under the heading "Chiller Curves (oh boy!)." This

hopefully also bring you full circle to understanding what the default

curves really look like, what they each individually represent, and

ultimately how they work together. Note my discussion revolved around a

centrifugal VSD chiller, for context. Other equipment may use curves of

a simpler format.

*If a "bi-quadratic equation" sounds like something that makes the warp

drives work on the Star Ship Enterprise, stop for a second and review

the math - it's not that crazy. You might want to skip ahead to see to

those visualizations I provided, or even build your own in excel.

Best of luck!

NICK CATON, E.I.T.

Grammy and Nick,

Thank you for your suggestions.

The equation turned out to be very simple.

For centrifugal chiller:

Electrical power consumed (kW)= Operating capacity at current conditions x Corrected electric input ratio/3413

Best ,

Ana

Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 19:17:18 +0800

Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Electricity consumption by CHILLER

From: grammy.hkust at gmail.com

To: ananeddav at hotmail.com

CC: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org

I am also confusing this problem, and I strongly recommend you to read the DOE-2 engineering manual, verison 2.1A, and DOE-2.2 volume 4, which can be downloaded from eQuest web site.

On page V.35 - V.38, engineering manual, it introduces the electric calculation of chiller, and on page 265, volume4, it introduces the chiller variable list number, you can export the hourly data in eQuest and calculated by hand. I am lost at this step. As i know at this place, there is something you need to notice, the unit of assign loading (1) shall be BTU, and electric demand (12) may be kW, then I still can't get the right number, if you get it, please let me know how.